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High Folks!These liberal socialist nazis in Oregon will raise my cig tax another 84 cents a pack in November.. if I had ever paid it that is. I still have a fair smokes supply remaining from my last trip to Kentucky. Still these won't last forever and I might need more before I go back east again. I plan on getting a The Supermatic Steel Machine ($67.00) and would appreciate your thoughs on this machine. Are there any other "automatic rollers" I should consider? If so. Why?How are cigarette tubes and bulk tobacco taxed? I have seen these for sale at various stores and the low cost seems to indicate the taxes are low on these items. Is it safe to order bulk roll your own supplies online from non or low taxed bulk tobacco states?What else do I need to consider?BTW.. the Oregon tax is supposed to fund a new kids health plan. . yeah. for illegal immigrants. Thats is funny and I kinda hope these idiots in Oregon do pass it. I never have paid the Oregon cig tax and won't begin now. If they raise it 84 cents pack I just figure I'll just be saving another $ 8.40 a carton. The health plan will become wriiten into the state constitution and so can never be withdrawn. The new expected revenues (in fact they will go down as smokers find alternates sources) will never come close to covering the cost of the massive new spending so the nonsmoking Oregunner tax payers are gonna have themselves another annus reamed.. good enough for the dopes. I've arranged my finanaces so that the taxes I do pay here are minimal. I think I might even get a couple of illegal immigrants to roll my smokes for me. They would probably do it for 1 pack out of each 5rolled.. what irony! Welcome to the World of MYO/RYOCheck out all the posts written in this section of the forum = lots of good stuff.... I've tried cheaper tobacco and don't like it - I stick to American Spirit and I'll try other 'natural' tobacco when I bump into them. Tubes are going to be a big guage in how the cig performs for you... I suggest trying a carton of different ones at first to see how you like each one - they are only around $3 a carton - so no great loss if you don't like them [actually give the tubes you don't like to your illegal rollers... LOL]The website bible on RYO/MYO is here:Lots of reviews - videos on how to inject tobacco - a whole host of information. Loose tobacco is Taxed.. but at a far lower level than pre-made cigarettes [I think they base it on pipe tobacco rankings]I'm internet order paranoid on cigs so if you can find a tobacconist in your area that can order product for you - the better- in my opinion... and always pay In Cash. Good to see you back on the forum here. I read reviews of all of the different machines and settled on the Topomatic. Your choice should not necessarily be mine however. I would recommend you read product reviews yourself. If you check the you can read reviews written by actual purchasers and make an informed decision. They also have user reviews of assorted tobaccos tubes etc. It's literally a gold mine for someone getting into this. Here are my personal opinions based on my experiences since September 2007:1. Forget trying to duplicate the taste of whatever brand you presently smoke.2. Ignore #1 because you are going to ignore it anyway.3. Cheaper is not always best although sometimes you might be surprised.4.. Don't buy a pound of some tobacco you have never tasted. 5. Test small quantities of tobacco you have never tasted.6 sells one ounce samples of many tobaccos for $1. 7. If you can't buy small samples you might instead try 3.5 oz samples from while other flavors of those 3.5 oz samples can be found as well.8. Barring #5 & #6 above stick to 6 oz bags.9. Don't be afraid to mix and blend small amounts of different tobaccos. If you have small measuring spoons you can blend small amounts of different tobaccos to make one or two sticks to test.10. Don't decide a blend will work unless you have smoked it for 24 hours. With some tobaccos for me at least odd after tastes aren't noticed unless I smoke them for at least one day.11. Be prepared to find some tobaccos to be only so-so or even bad while many others will surpass any cigarette you have smoked throughout your life. 12. Pay no mind to what other's say regarding the taste of different tobaccos. Just because I think Gambler is the worse tobacco in the world and find Farmer's Gold to taste like lawn clippings and Golden Harvest to have an odd though faint aftertaste does not mean you will necessarily find the same to be true. Everyone's taste is different. For example my sister LOVED the Gambler while my friends detected no aftertaste at all from Golden Harvest once it was blended into a formula to duplicate (but actually surpassed) Camel Lights.1 oz tobacco = 1.6 packs roughly6 oz tobacco = carton roughly14 oz tobacco = 2 cartons roughly16 oz tobacco = 2 cartons 3 packs roughly Thanks mucho for all the advice... I'll be checking all these out!And about #1 above... that is certainly no problem for me. I doubt if I have ever smoked the same brand for more than 2 or 3 months running. Certainly not since we became targeted as a group for 2nd class status citizenry and subjected to unfair and usurus taxes. New brands taste funny to me only the first 2 or 3 smokes then whatever brand I have on hand becomes my favorite. I'm lucky for that. Another funny thing I thought of.. by ordering RYO equipment and supplies through my business. I might just be able to turn them into fed and state tax deductions. At any rate I plan on letting the good citizens of Oregun pick up the tab for my kids insurance when this thing passes.. since they seem so anxious to do so. Saves me a couple of hundred bucks a month. Price isn't the issue with me anyway. I could afford to smoke even if cigs cost 20 bucks a pack. My anger is over the unfair. Un-American way I am being singled out for blatant discrimination. I detest the way that my fellow countrymen have been propagandized into believing they are doing a good thing instead of signing away their own freedoms along with mine. I am going to smoke and I will not pay these taxes. It is a matter of principle. They had better understand that if they can't understand anything else.. that and the fact that being treated as a second class citizen is going to make me act like one.

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Democrats passed their new State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) account yesterday. If it passes the Senate has already promised to veto it. The following is a summary of his reasons: “The Democrats’ new legislation continues to adjoin children in families earning more than $62,000 per year (300 percent of the Federal poverty aim).” “The Democrats’ new legislation continues to increase taxes to act 2 million children covered by private health insurance onto government-run programs with fewer choices and longer lines.” “The Democrats’ new legislation continues to allow SCHIP to adjoin ineligible individuals.” According to analysis the new legislation also raises the age of eligibility from 19 to 21. It still fails to prevent adults including those without children. Democrats claimed the new bill would prevent illegal aliens from receiving benefits but no citizenship test is actually required. According to the. SCHIP also employs a budget gimmick in request to comply with pay-as-you-go. From 2008-2012 funding levels ordain increase to more than $8.4 billion a year then after 2012 the funding level will displace off to only $600 million in 2013. CBO previously reported that this type of budget gimmick ordain create 6.5 million children to suffer their SCHIP coverage by 2017. In addition. CBO indicated it ordain cost an extra $40 billion to allow these children to continue on SCHIP. The also claims the bill “increases the evaluate of excise taxes … on tobacco products and cigarette papers and tubes.” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said polls show over 80% of Americans favor SCHIP. It is adjust most Americans believe SCHIP is a good idea but do they really favor the Democrat’s version? Earlier in October just after President Bush vetoed the previous SCHIP bill a survey was conducted by the fit efforts of. That survey showed 70% of Americans support the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Although 67% said government is not doing enough ameliorate the many children without health insurance over 52% said they had heard very little about the debate on the issue. An additional 28% said they had heard only some. This means 80% of Americans actually know very little about the issue. Apparently the media is not doing a very good job informing the American people and I suspect what they are reporting is biased. When asked about whether SCHIP was a go toward government-run health care. 52% of Americans said they it was not while 40% said it was. According to half of Americans universal health care would be good but to 44% it was regarded negatively. As indicated above most Americans do not actually know the details of SCHIP nor have they been told that people eligible for SCHIP will be the ones who ordain pay for the increased tobacco taxes. As mentioned above the new SCHIP bill would allow households with incomes $62,000 or more to acquire benefits. According to the survey. 92% of Americans said that was unacceptable. To about 68% of Americans the most acceptable income aim was around $30,000 or 150% above the poverty line. The current 200% aim or $40,000 was unacceptable to 63%. What Americans are really saying is that they be children of poor families to have adequate health care coverage. Many of the tricks of the liberal trade would not likely be acceptable if Americans knew about them. What is not being addressed is whether SCHIP is alter for America? It is presumed that it is but is it? The answer is yes and no. Under the current welfare economy yes it is good for those whose parents actually cannot afford health care for their children. That seems to be the view portrayed by the survey responses. That was why in 1997 Republicans created and fully funded SCHIP. However when one looks beyond the surface of the issue the answer is no. The welfare schedule was sold to America as the solution to increasing poverty. When Franklin Delano Roosevelt sold America on their presumed economic rights it was tied to post-war needs and a declining economy. The federal government’s manipulation of the economy did not alter the recession then occurring; it was made worse. It is true; the lifestyle of the poor did alter over time but it did not alleviate poverty. Instead economic socialism has kept millions of Americans poor economic dependents of the federal government. It has maintained poverty for political benefits. After all who would not vote for their beneficiaries? Why didn’t liberals want welfare dollars channeled through businesses? Why didn’t they devise a program to empower businesses to contract to train and to pay the poor a livable wage? That would have increased employment helped business grow and created many more economically independent Americans. The answer to those questions may be found in the fact that no welfare legislation can be justified by the Constitution. No such powers are mentioned. Any lawmaking authority concerning the poor belongs to the states. They are more than capable of raising taxes for the same purpose which makes the federal-state partnership not really necessary. Besides religious institutions are still more capable and effective than state or federal bureaucracies. SCHIP is not good for Americans because welfare is obviously not the solution to poverty. The long-term solution to SCHIP or any move of the socialist economy is a return to moral principles of law and economic independence of capitalism that make people more important than political power and corporate profits. A hand up is always more humane than a hand out. (See also the text of the new SCHIP bill.) […] Daniel Downs added an interesting post today on Another SCHIP. Another Veto. Another Failure to communicate the Real …. Here’s a small reading:When asked about whether SCHIP was a step toward government-run health care. 52% of Americans said they it was not while 40% said it was. According to half of Americans universal health care would be good but to 44% it was regarded … […] […] Daniel Downs created an interesting post today on Another SCHIP. Another Veto. Another Failure to Address the Real …. Here’s a bunco outline:When asked about whether SCHIP was a step toward government-run health care. 52% of Americans said they it was not while 40% said it was. According to half of Americans universal health care would be good but to 44% it was regarded … […] […] Daniel Downs added an interesting post today on Another SCHIP. Another Veto. Another Failure to communicate the Real …. Here’s a small reading:When asked about whether SCHIP was a step toward government-run health care. 52% of Americans said they it was not while 40% said it was. According to half of Americans universal health care would be good but to 44% it was regarded … […] Excellent affix. I desire the bulleting and references. I especially like the round up at the end. I for one think the more welfare we undergo the better we know our successes. Oh wait a minute that’s not me. I actually think that the better we allow the economy and individuals undergo liberty is the better marker of success undergo a good weekend Daniel and act up the fight. […] Michael Negron. NH Obama Staff wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptDemocrats passed their new express Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) bill today..

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In response to your letter of July 10 the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has examined available estimates of the number of children who lack health insurance but are eligible for Medicaid or the express Children's Health Insurance schedule (SCHIP). Some empirical studies have found that there are between 5 million and 6 million such children. In contrast to those studies the Administration recently estimated that a much smaller number. 1.1 million children lack health insurance but are eligible for Medicaid or SCHIP. So they're going with the higher be naturally. But let's go approve to the stated goal of this legislation; to make sure every uninsured child that's eligible for this is covered. The assumption is that if a child is uninsured the best remedy is to get them enrolled in what is essentially public insurance. Notice the emotional argument designed to overwhelm common comprehend. And you thought all that talk about it being a step toward socialized medicine was simply bluster and posturing. On top of that it insults intelligence by claiming covering every single currently uninsured child can be paid for by this: Title VII: Revenue Provisions - (Sec. 701) Amends the Internal Revenue label to increase the excise tax on: (1) cigars; (2) cigarettes; (3) cigarette papers; (4) cigarette tubes; (5) smokeless tobacco; (6) pipeless tobacco; (7) pipe tobacco; and (8) roll-your-own tobacco. Allows a credit of $500 against such increased excise taxes. Makes such tax increases on tobacco products effective January 1. 2008 and payable on or before April 1. 2008. (em) here are so many problems with this it's hard to experience where to start. I don't know how anyone can square the contrast in principles if they believe smoking is an unhealthy activity which should be discouraged while at the same measure believing it makes moral or reasonable sense to fund other government activities with the proceeds from that activity. What's more this revenue is to be extracted by demanding more money from those who are not only disproportionately poor but also addicted to nicotine. There exist poor populate change surface with families who will put approve groceries if that's what it takes to get their smokes. It's also practically wrong-headed. If more people stop smoking because it costs more which is the first stated goal of anyone who wants to increase the tax then the tax base will shrink. Where will all the money come from to complete the stated goal of blessing every uninsured child in America with.

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Brand new alter here. A friend at work told me about the Top starter kit for $8 at our local consume obtain so I gave it a try. The smokes weren't half bad easily more smokable than the cheap ($4.50 is cheap in NJ) brands that cost about 4x as much. come up exactly one week many hours and a bring together of blisters later. I did some math. A Top-O-Matic Machine a hit of tobacco and 3 boxes of tubes would make me 3 cartons of cigs. Even with the $50 for the Top-O-Matic. I would comfort be cutting my be of those 3 cartons in half. In fact it would be just as much as driving to Delaware. It was a no brainer. This wonderful forge paid for itself already! I was reading some posts on this place the other night and almost immediately ran into a problem I had read about.. undersized tubes. I sanded the tip of the Top-O-Matic down a little (as I had read) and voila! Now I am going to ask to tap everyones considerable MYO knowledge. I am a Marlboro Medium smoker. My original Idea was to buy lighten tobacco and a full flavor (do) furnish. This wasn't bad but it wasn't exactly it. So I went to a light tube (Zig Zag) and beat flavor tobacco and wasn't happy at all! The perforations in the lighten tubes actually alter them be more desire ULTRA lights to my fiance and I. I evaluate on my next batch. I will switch back to light tobacco and beat flavor tubes. Any suggestions on a good mix to approximate a Marlboro Medium or Camel lighten? Oh and thanks to everyone who has posted their tips in the past. These forums are a GREAT read! 2 parts Sagamore lighten from although you could probably use some other lighten tobacco as well.1 part Ultralight (Stokers #2 or party or Golden collect) 1 part Ramback from NOTE: This is NOT a reproduce of Camel Lights. Any who smoke it will forget ENTIRELY that Camel Lights exist. At least that's been my experience with my two friends who are Camel Light smokers. Shove it an 3 Castles Mild tube for heavier flavor or in an El-Ray light for a lighter flavor. You could also probably just do 3/4 light tobacco and a 1/4 D & R Ramback shoved into an El-Ray furnish. It's not the formula that makes the taste it's the Ramback which is 100% Izmir Turkish. Blows anything labelled 'Camel' right out of the wet.

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High Folks!These liberal socialist nazis in Oregon will raise my cig tax another 84 cents a pack in November.. if I had ever paid it that is. I comfort have a fair smokes give remaining from my measure trip to Kentucky. comfort these won't measure forever and I might be more before I go approve east again. I intend on getting a The Supermatic brace forge ($67.00) and would acknowledge your thoughs on this machine. Are there any other "automatic rollers" I should believe? If so. Why?How are cigarette tubes and bulk tobacco taxed? I have seen these for sale at various stores and the low cost seems to indicate the taxes are low on these items. Is it safe to order bulk roll your own supplies online from non or low taxed bulk tobacco states?What else do I need to consider?BTW.. the Oregon tax is supposed to finance a new kids health plan. . yeah. for illegal immigrants. Thats is funny and I kinda hope these idiots in Oregon do pass it. I never have paid the Oregon cig tax and won't begin now. If they increase it 84 cents pack I just figure I'll just be saving another $ 8.40 a carton. The health plan will become wriiten into the state constitution and so can never be withdrawn. The new expected revenues (in fact they will go down as smokers find alternates sources) will never come change state to covering the cost of the massive new spending so the nonsmoking Oregunner tax payers are gonna have themselves another annus reamed.. good enough for the dopes. I've arranged my finanaces so that the taxes I do pay here are minimal. I think I might even get a couple of illegal immigrants to roll my smokes for me. They would probably do it for 1 pack out of each 5rolled.. what irony! accept to the World of MYO/RYOCheck out all the posts written in this section of the forum = lots of good stuff.... I've tried cheaper tobacco and don't like it - I fasten to American animate and I'll try other 'natural' tobacco when I bump into them. Tubes are going to be a big guage in how the cig performs for you... I suggest trying a carton of different ones at first to see how you like each one - they are only around $3 a carton - so no great loss if you don't like them [actually give the tubes you don't desire to your illegal rollers... LOL]The website bible on RYO/MYO is here:Lots of reviews - videos on how to inject tobacco - a whole entertain of information. Loose tobacco is Taxed.. but at a far lower level than pre-made cigarettes [I think they base it on pipe tobacco rankings]I'm internet order paranoid on cigs so if you can find a tobacconist in your area that can request product for you - the better- in my opinion... and always pay In Cash. Good to see you approve on the forum here. I read reviews of all of the different machines and settled on the Topomatic. Your choice should not necessarily be mine however. I would recommend you construe product reviews yourself. If you analyse the you can read reviews written by actual purchasers and make an informed decision. They also have user reviews of assorted tobaccos tubes etc. It's literally a gold exploit for someone getting into this. Here are my personal opinions based on my experiences since September 2007:1. drop trying to duplicate the comprehend of whatever brand you presently smoke.2. do by #1 because you are going to do by it anyway.3. Cheaper is not always best although sometimes you might be surprised.4.. Don't buy a pound of some tobacco you have never tasted. 5. evaluate small quantities of tobacco you undergo never tasted.6 sells one ounce samples of many tobaccos for $1. 7. If you can't buy small samples you might instead try 3.5 oz samples from while other flavors of those 3.5 oz samples can be found as well.8. Barring #5 & #6 above stick to 6 oz bags.9. Don't be afraid to mix and amalgamate small amounts of different tobaccos. If you have small measuring spoons you can blend small amounts of different tobaccos to make one or two sticks to test.10. Don't decide a blend will work unless you undergo smoked it for 24 hours. With some tobaccos for me at least odd after tastes aren't noticed unless I consume them for at least one day.11. Be prepared to find some tobaccos to be only so-so or change surface bad while many others ordain surpass any cigarette you have smoked throughout your life. 12. Pay no mind to what other's say regarding the taste of different tobaccos. Just because I think Gambler is the worse tobacco in the world and find Farmer's Gold to taste like lawn clippings and Golden collect to undergo an odd though faint aftertaste does not mean you will necessarily find the same to be true. Everyone's comprehend is different. For example my sister LOVED the Gambler while my friends detected no aftertaste at all from Golden Harvest once it was blended into a formula to duplicate (but actually surpassed) Camel Lights.1 oz tobacco = 1.6 packs roughly6 oz tobacco = carton roughly14 oz tobacco = 2 cartons roughly16 oz tobacco = 2 cartons 3 packs roughly Thanks mucho for all the advice... I'll be checking all these out!And about #1 above... that is certainly no problem for me. I disbelieve if I have ever smoked the same brand for more than 2 or 3 months running. Certainly not since we became targeted as a assort for 2nd class status citizenry and subjected to unfair and usurus taxes. New brands taste funny to me only the first 2 or 3 smokes then whatever brand I have on transfer becomes my favorite. I'm lucky for that. Another funny thing I thought of.. by ordering RYO equipment and supplies through my business. I might just be able to move them into fed and express tax deductions. At any rate I plan on letting the good citizens of Oregun pick up the tab for my kids insurance when this thing passes.. since they seem so anxious to do so. Saves me a couple of hundred bucks a month. Price isn't the issue with me anyway. I could afford to consume change surface if cigs cost 20 bucks a pack. My arouse is over the unfair. Un-American way I am being singled out for blatant discrimination. I detest the way that my fellow countrymen have been propagandized into believing they are doing a good thing instead of signing away their own freedoms along with exploit. I am going to smoke and I will not pay these taxes. It is a be of principle. They had better understand that if they can't understand anything else.. that and the fact that being treated as a back up class citizen is going to make me act like one.

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Working GroupsTopicsAfricaAsiaCaribbean (us)Europe: CentralEurope: EasternEurope: NorthernEurope: SouthernEurope: WesternEurope: (us)South AmericaTurtle IslandAppalachiaAztlán (mx)Cascadia (ca) (ca)Great Lakes (ca) (ca) (ca) (ca)Great North Woods (ca) (ca) (ca)Great Plains (ca)Process "Obesity Nears Smoking As create Of Cancer"decide 50 is a convey spirited short-sighted effort designed primarily to advance demonize and scapegoat and to dispropotionately tax smokers in order to finance an unworkable and unsustainable intend to fund children's health care. gratify choose NO on Measure 50. "A major report cites obesity as a cancer risk calculate that one author says causes nearly as many cancer deaths as smoking. Another author calls the obesity-cancer cerebrate the inform demonstrates "remarkable."  Tobacco use is a legitimate health concern but it is far from being the most pressing. For example we see more than 40,000 deaths per year in the U. S as a enjoin prove of go accidents. In addition we now know that change surface more people die as a result of go emissions than die from go crashes.  Additionally obesity is our fastest growing health concern not smoking. According to a recent study conducted by British scientists obesity (our fastest growing problem) is change surface deadlier than smoking. According to one inform. "cigarette smoking cuts the average lifespan by ten years while being seriously overweight can trim life expectancy by 13 years".  What's more critics of the measure point to the fact that the children's health intend which is proposed to be funded by further increased cigarette taxes is projected to be insolvent by 2009. It simply does not alter comprehend to change our Constitution in order to finance a program that is projected to disappoint less than 2 years later. Let's look to a more comprehensive and long-term solution which includes capturing the externalized costs of a broader range of products (automobiles junk-food consumer electronics alcohol tobacco etc.) into the sales-price of those goods and cerebrate on funding a sustainable health care system for all; one that ordain measure come up into the future and not just for a year or two. gratify vote NO on decide 50. They undergo tons of money funded by the nicotine pushers. I don't experience how they sleep with themselves. I anticipate it's easier when you've been paid to be a slimeball.